https://bit.ly/3HGv7Kt https://bit.ly/33aZ4Dx https://bit.ly/3LsypTZ https://bit.ly/3rE1SCt https://bit.ly/3BaeXXs https://bit.ly/3oAP3a7 https://bit.ly/3HCITOm https://bit.ly/3uGCyOq by a Taken In Hand reader on 2005 May 23 - 21:57 | reply to this comment META: Moderator's Note Before posting, please ensure that your post is on-topic for this thread, i.e., is about the question posed in Sarah's introduction to this thread. If you wish to discuss Pat Allen's book, please do so on the following thread instead: Getting To "I Do", by Patricia Allen: a book review. Well, not usually. You can be controlled completely mentally and emotionally, without the need to get physical. Orgasm generally does require some physical contact, though yes it is possible for it to happen mentally. It might be what you WANT and that's fine, but it isn't truly NECESSARY nor should it be. Those who are saying it shouldn't be needed are proceeding from a mindset where control and compliance can be gained without having to resort to it. And they don't want to resort to it. So the argument that because orgasm requires touching, so does control, is completely off track. It works for you and you both want it that way. That's cool. There's no reason to feel slighted by those who feel it shouldn't be that way. "Pat" by a Taken In Hand reader on 2005 Mar 23 - 16:52 | reply to this comment As I said... Pat, You said,